Talk:Social democracy

Totally wrong. Modern social democracy is nothing like the social demoracy of Karl Kautsky pre-1909. How can you possibly play off British Labour or the Democratic Party as Marxist? This article reeks of liberal bullshit. MustCrushCapitalism 23:36, 22 April 2012 (MSK)


 * Definitely issues. Social democratic parties in power, particularly the British Labour Party, have a very poor track record, but so do orthodox Marxist-Leninists. User:Fred Bauder Talk 23:53, 22 April 2012 (MSK)


 * Neither the Labour Party or the Democratic Party have Marxist doctrinal roots. What they have is participation by labour or progressives who do. The Democratic Socialists of America have played an active role in the Occupy movement. User:Fred Bauder Talk 00:26, 23 April 2012 (MSK)


 * "a timid campaign that presents few major new initiatives" https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/23/world/europe/french-go-to-polls-in-closely-watched-presidential-race.html User:Fred Bauder Talk 02:08, 23 April 2012 (MSK)