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First, let me thank you for actively editing. It gives hope.

Second, articles, or images, such as Mode of production‎ which are imported in large part from Wikipedia need to be identified as such with {{wiki}} inserted at the bottom. User:Fred Bauder Talk 04:33, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Proletariat

With respect to this edit: No one within living memory has observed a working man or woman in the United States using the word "proletariat" to refer to working class people, outside of a Marxist study group of some sort, of course. Fred Bauder (talk) 03:13, 14 January 2017 (CST)

"The metaphors, tropes, and formulas circulated within a discourse are the anchors of its common sensibility, the moments that give to an utterance an immediate plausibility or attractiveness within a certain community of writers and readers, speakers and listeners, and an immediate outlandishness to members of other communities.
Roberts, William Clare (2016-12-20). Marx's Inferno: The Political Theory of Capital (Kindle Locations 220-222). Princeton University Press. Kindle Edition. Fred Bauder (talk) 13:52, 14 January 2017 (CST)
I appreciate the William Clare Roberts quote and pretty much agree with it. Also, I agree with you that "proletariat" does have an archaic or stuffy sound to most people now. I'm not sure whether you're just making an observation here or whether you're criticising my use of the word in such a prominent place in the article (second sentence). Academic Marxists still use the word sometimes, and people are going to come across it in Marx's own writings, of course. I thought it would be good to introduce the term fairly early in the article since it's more or less a synonym for working class. Also, we have an article on it, which ought to be cross-linked with this one since they would probably both be of interest to anyone looking up this topic.